You're right. Fahrenheit is better. Although they are not a typical taiwanese. Except for wang da dong. I still like them 'cause they are very good in english not like the other members of F4. Vaness is the only one who nows how to speak english. And whenever they go to another country. They still bring their translators with them. Unlike the fahrenheit. They only bring their hot bodies. Haha. And another thing despite their rapid popularity all over asia. All of tha fahrenheit members are. Still. Down to earth. I'll support fahrenheit forever!